Effective period / Period of releases: 1995 - 1996

Members: Phil Todd (2), A. Joinson

Duo based around Phil Todd (2) from Ashtray Navigations etc & Joincey aka Wagstaff etc. Still active.
"Spontaneous short improvised 'pop' songs" with pre-composed lyrics, taking singing duties in turns. Generally produced extremely short songs but also some very long ones.

Missing tapes include E.F. Tapes 157 - "Fuck The Legal Stations" (1996),
Face Like A Smacked Arse 9 - "Yr Nose Controls You",
Foundation For Nothing 6 - "Our Mothers & Fathers Taught Us Right From Wrong", and
Malpractice Tapes "Worthless Fucking Cup & Pointless Fucking Saucer" double cassette.